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Area Forecast Discussion
Issued by NWS Mobile, AL
Issued by NWS Mobile, AL
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357 FXUS64 KMOB 121211 AFDMOB Area Forecast Discussion National Weather Service Mobile AL 610 AM CST Wed Feb 12 2025 ...New AVIATION... .AVIATION... (12Z TAFS) Issued at 610 AM CST Wed Feb 12 2025 IFR to VLIFR ceilings will slowly become MVFR ceilings today with widespread showers and thunderstorms likely occurring through most of the day. The best chance for impactful thunderstorms will be mainly north of I-10, especially along the highway 84. Some storms could be severe this afternoon with damaging winds and potentially a tornado or two. Ceilings will drop to IFR tonight as a line of strong to severe thunderstorms moves in from the west along an approaching cold front. Low level wind shear will be present at around 40 knots at 2kft out of the southwest. Storms will progress from west to east mainly after midnight resulting in in reduced visibility`s, gusty winds and IFR to VLIFR ceilings. BB-8 && .PREV DISCUSSION... /issued 449 AM CST Wed Feb 12 2025/ ..New NEAR TERM, SHORT TERM, LONG TERM, MARINE... NEAR TERM... (Now through Thursday night) Issued at 449 AM CST Wed Feb 12 2025 Two rounds of strong to severe storms are expected today along with the potential for localized heavy rainfall. A HIGH risk of rip currents and a HIGH Surf Advisory will also begin Wednesday and persist through the week. For information on each hazard, please reference the appropriate section of the discussion. Synopsis...A rather broad longwave upper trough with two embedded shortwaves will move into the eastern US today through Thursday. The two embedded shortwaves will be the focus for our two possible rounds of strong to severe storms this afternoon and evening. The first shortwave is already starting to slowly overspread the deep south as increased showers have begun to overspread areas to our west. The second shortwave will quickly follow on it heels late this afternoon and into the overnight hours before lifting out of the area by Thursday morning. At the surface, a surface boundary from yesterdays system has sagged as far south as Mobile county this morning. This boundary will quickly begin to lift northward this morning in response to the approaching shortwave. South of the boundary, rich Gulf moisture will surge northward on the back of a strengthening low level jet. Based on current guidance we expect this boundary to lay out west to east mainly around the highway 84 corridor. Where this front ends up will play a big role on the potential for more significant severe potential. Nonetheless, the first round of strong to severe storms should begin by early afternoon along this boundary zone. By late afternoon into the evening, the first shortwave will lift out as the final shortwave enters from stage left. This will be the final push during the overnight hours. More widespread thunderstorms will develop along the rapidly approaching cold front, a pre- frontal trough and the warmfront itself. Depending on the location of the warmfront/modified outflow boundary from the afternoon round, storms south of the boundary would pose a severe risk throughout the night. By Thursday morning, the longwave upper trough will push through as the shortwave trough lifts out to the northeast. This will allow for the cold front to clear the area ending all rain chances. Cooler temperatures will arrive in the fronts wake as dry conditions prevail on Thursday. BB-8 Severe storms...After yesterdays Gulf coast "surprise" the last thing any of us want to talk about is another round of severe weather yet here we are talking about two with the potential for significant severe. The forecast has certainly trended more concerning since last night; however, there still remains a lot of moving parts that could limit the severe potential this afternoon and evening.We are looking at two separate waves of strong to severe convection to occur Wednesday afternoon and overnight Wednesday. The first will be mainly across that same highway 84 corridor during the mid/late morning into the mid/late afternoon hours. This will likely be along that stalled warm frontal zone that will likely end up around the highway 84 corridor by midday today. The tricky part about this will be the difference between surface based storms capable of damaging winds and tornadoes and elevated storms capable of hail. With how tight the gradient across the boundary will be, these two areas could only be separated by a few miles. North of this boundary elevated storms will likely be ongoing with the potential for some small hail given marginal mid-level lapse rates, weak storm relative inflow and strong deep layer flow. I would not be shocked to see a couple hail reports Wednesday mainly north of highway 84. One thing to note is that general storm mode will likely be north/northeasterly which will promote storms crossing the boundary quickly. This may limit the severe potential as storms may struggle to organize before crossing and becoming elevated. If this were to happen then the afternoon severe treat could be limited. However, CAMs continue to generally becoming more robust on the development of adequate instability near and south of the Highway 84 corridor, with ample shear in place as the shortwave begins to move across the region. Robust low level instability and sfc- based CAPE will be present, with 3km CAPE values in the 100 to 150j/kg range and sfc-based instability on the order of 1,000 to 1,500j/kg. This combined with 50 to 60 knots of deep layer shear and large, curved hodographs yielding 1km and 3km SRH values on the order of 200-250 m2/s2 and 300 to 350 m2/s2 will promote a severe weather threat with potential hazards including damaging wind gusts and tornadoes. IF, a storm can become more established prior to reaching the boundary zone, the kinematics and thermodynamic environment would likely also support the potential for a significant tornado or two (EF-2+). The afternoon certainly has a high ceiling if storms can stay on the unstable side of the boundary and take full advantage of the environment in place. As mentioned, the fine line between seeing nothing and seeing significant severe storms this afternoon along the highway 84 corridor is incredibly small and it will not take much for things to escilate significantly. The evening into overnight hours Wednesday night will be the trickiest part of the forecast. A more substantial shortwave will move across the area and the cold front will begin approaching from the west. Afternoon convection will likely dictate the exact positioning of the surface warm front/stalled boundary, which will be one of the foci for more robust storm development early on where semi-discrete supercells could materialize. Likewise, the presence of a pre-frontal trough may also help instigate more isolated thunderstorm development nearer the I-65 corridor, however this may be removed far enough from better forcing for ascent to help mitigate a more robust severe weather potential there. Guidance does vary quite a bit on the exact evolution of these features as they hinge on the evolution of the afternoon convection. The further north the initiating boundary is, the better the forcing that will be present for the development of convection. Most the guidance is generally in agreement on the eastward progression of the cold front; however, vectors become parallel to the initiating boundary and any convection along the front may struggle to remain surface based and repeatedly become undercut. Our main focus will likely turn towards the aforementioned pre-frontal trough and positioning of the warm front/stalled boundary for any more robust severe potential. Overall environment will remain sufficient for organized severe weather with around 1,000j/kg of surface based instability maintaining itself into the overnight hours and large, curved hodographs maintaining similar shear and SRH values as the prior shortwave had to work with. Given this, the expectation would be for a continued threat of damaging winds and tornadoes in any of the more robust convection. Models seem to agree on forcing lifting out during the mid to late overnight hours with a decaying line of showers and storms prior to daybreak east of the I-65 corridor. Overall, it appears the greatest threat for severe weather will remain in the vicinity of the Highway 84 corridor, with a diminishing threat with southward and eastward extent as better forcing remains over interior counties. BB-8 MM/25 Heavy rainfall...Heavy rainfall appears to be a hazard that has slowly become more concerning over the last 12 hours or so. I will start with this overall setup does not necessarily support a widespread heavy rainfall threat, especially given our rather dry antecedent conditions. The problem is that recent guidance has supported the potential of training convective storms over the same areas for several hours in a row. With PWATS around 1.5 to 1.75 inches and deep instability, warm rain processes will be able to produce rather efficient rainfall rates. These rates coupled with storms training over one another along the aforementioned boundary zones can quickly pile up the rainfall if things don`t move. Most of the area will likely get a nice 1 to 3 inches of rain with 2 to 4 inches across our northern tier of counties. Our concern is in the higher ceiling totals that could occur. Some guidance this morning has highlighted some areas that could see up to 6 to 8 inches. The issue is that where that occurs will be very localized and where that happens (if it happens) is impossible to pin down until its almost happening. Given the localized nature of that potential and the overall dry conditions, we have elected to not go with a Flood Watch for flash flooding. However, some flash flooding could occur this afternoon and into the evening as heavier rain rates overwhealm dry conditions. BB-8 Other Hazards...On top of the severe storms and flooding, we have the usual suspects to contend with along our coastal areas. Given a stout southerly wind, surf heights will build to around 4 to 6 feet leading to dangerous surf conditions and a High Risk of rip currents. Also gusty winds will be possible this afternoon as the low level jet strengthens leading to wind gusts around 30 mph this afternoon. While this is below advisory criteria, it is enough to make driving across areas bridges a littler hairy. BB-8 LONG TERM... (Friday through Tuesday) Issued at 449 AM CST Wed Feb 12 2025 Upper-level troughing over the western US at the start of the period will quickly move across the southern US through Sunday before exiting into the western Atlantic by Monday. Out ahead of it, a persistent southwesterly flow pattern aloft will continue through Sunday morning before becoming more zonal after it passes overhead. At the surface, a frontal boundary, which passed through the area during the near term, will lift back to the north as a warm front Friday night. After passing, ample moisture advects into the area from the Gulf, with ensembles painting high probabilities of PWATs greater than 1.3 inches (these values are more than 2 standard deviations above climatological norms for this time of year) and dewpoints greater than 65 degrees across the area for Saturday. As the upper trough approaches the area, a strong cold front is expected to approach and sweep through the local area sometime late Saturday into Sunday morning. Behind it, a cooler, drier airmass filters in for the remainder of the extended period. We continue to monitor the potential for severe weather sometime Saturday night as the cold front moves through the area. Guidance continues to suggest broad diffluence aloft and strong deep layer shear across the Deep South as the upper trough takes on a more neutral tilt and ejects northeastward. Factoring in a potent LLJ (on the order of 50 to 60 knots), modeled hodographs are curved and rather large, supportive of streamwise vorticity ingestion from the surface all the way through the mid-levels. Instability also looks favorable, with ensembles suggesting that CAPE values will likely exceed 500 J/kg and select deterministic runs suggesting around 1000 J/kg. Assuming the typical cool season low-end bias that global models tend to have with instability, I feel that once we get into the range of the CAMs, these values will likely increase further given the strong WAA regime in place and long recovery time. Putting these together suggests that the environment will be supportive of storm organization and robust, rotating updrafts.. primed for an all- hazards severe weather event. One question that is still left unanswered is storm mode. Ridging/subsidence may hold long enough to limit discrete cell development out ahead of the cold front, suggesting that the cold front may act as the primary focus for storm development. This would lead to the primary mode being a potent and quick-moving QLCS. However, it should be stressed that if ridging is a bit weaker and there are other low-level boundaries in place (ie pre-frontal troughs, confluence zones, etc), the environment would be supportive of discrete supercells, possibly resulting in a higher-end event. CAMs should hopefully resolve this once the event gets into their time range, so we will continue to monitor trends closely over the coming days. As far as risk area, CIPS Analogs and CSU-MLP probabilities continue to show a strong severe signal across the entirety of the Deep South, extending across our local area. The latest Day 4 outlook from SPC has a newly- added 30% risk area extending from Louisiana to central Alabama. This area does clip our northwestern-most zones. The remainder of the area is under a 15% risk area. Further refinements of the risk area can be expected over the coming days, and once we get CAM guidance, timing and impacts can be discussed in greater detail. /96 MARINE... Issued at 449 AM CST Wed Feb 12 2025 Patchy dense marine fog has formed across Mobile and Pensacola bays this morning. Onshore flow continues to strengthen this morning, lingering through late Wednesday night. Moderate to occasionally strong offshore flow follows in the wake of a cold frontal passage Thursday. Moderate, to at times strong onshore flow returns ahead of the next system this weekend, with moderate to strong offshore flow returning Sunday following the passage of a strong cold front. A Small Craft Advisory goes into effect this morning through Wednesday night, with additional Small Craft Advisories likely needed throughout the late week into the weekend timeframe. BB-8 && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... Mobile 79 56 68 42 65 57 76 56 / 80 90 20 0 20 20 20 90 Pensacola 76 62 71 47 65 60 74 62 / 50 90 50 0 20 20 10 90 Destin 75 63 71 50 66 61 72 64 / 40 90 60 10 20 10 10 80 Evergreen 80 56 67 39 67 52 77 57 / 80 90 20 0 10 20 20 90 Waynesboro 79 48 62 36 65 52 78 51 / 90 90 0 0 10 30 30 100 Camden 78 50 62 37 66 52 76 53 / 90 90 10 0 10 30 20 90 Crestview 79 61 72 43 68 54 76 61 / 60 90 50 0 20 10 10 80 && .MOB WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... AL...High Rip Current Risk through late Thursday night for ALZ265-266. High Surf Advisory from noon today to noon CST Thursday for ALZ265-266. FL...High Rip Current Risk through late Thursday night for FLZ202-204- 206. High Surf Advisory from noon today to noon CST Thursday for FLZ202-204-206. MS...None. GM...Dense Fog Advisory until 9 AM CST this morning for GMZ630>632- 634. Small Craft Advisory until midnight CST tonight for GMZ670-675. && $$ This product is also available on the web at: www.weather.gov/mob